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MONTANA FUNERAL DIRECTORS TRY TO SHUT DOWN COMPETITION

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Yet another undertakers' trade association is trying to take away families' rights and outlaw lower-cost cremations.

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Last Updated ( Tuesday, 04 December 2007 13:11 ) Read more...
 

FCA Board member Harriet Bartnick--AARP Letter

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FCA Board member Harriet Bartnick has sent a letter to AARP asking them to endorse better regulation of donated tissue as part of their national policy. See the attachment below.
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A $27,000 Send-Off

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- submitted to FCA by April Fisher

 I thought I would also share my experience with a funeral home when my husband committed suicide in 1996. I was 25 years old, he was 31.

I went in very distressed. My mother-in-law had chosen Restland Memorial Home in Richardson, Texas. It was very beautiful, like a park, and very, very expensive, although I would have no idea until much later.

I wanted him cremated; Michael had always said he never wanted to be buried. His mother vehemently refused; she had a priest come in and tell me that if I didnt bury her son she would stop eating. So of course, I agreed. The next thing the professionally dressed funeral sales lady takes all of us to a board room, gives us a heartfelt speech about how sorry she is, then says she will take us out together to pick the perfect spot for Michael.

We all get in her van and she drives us to a beautiful spot on the lake, --- swans, a gorgeous weeping willow hanging over. I picked the spot right under the tree in front of the water. She says, "wonderful choice." We all go back to the board room. She gets her assistant and whispers some things to her, gets some papers out, starts writing stuff, etc., etc. 10 minutes go by, she walks out, we're all sitting there. We're all wondering how much this is going to cost, but no one can bring themselves to say anything at a "time like this."

The lady comes back and very politely says she has picked out a beautiful coffiin that will complement the gravesite perfectly if we would like to see it now. We would. Its beautiful. White enamal with brass railing --- gorgeous, heavenly. White satin interior.

We go back to the board room. She starts writing again, then finally, my mother sees my anxiety and tears and speaks up. "So are you going to tell us how much this is going to cost and give us our payment options?" The woman says, yes, yes, I was just getting to that. Of course. Ive got it almost figured, you of course want programs, etc., etc., etc.

At this point, my mother catches on even though everyone else in the room is too distraught to say anything. She says "Listen, first we should really talk about how much the plot and casket are going to cost, because my daughter and her husband didnt have life insurance." AT this remark the woman, opens her eyes wide. No life insurance? Well, payment is needed in full before anything can be done. No checks. Cash, credit card, cashiers check.

Then she gives us the prices. Now, remember, this is 1996 and none of us really have any experience with funerals. The plot alone will cost $12,000 and the casket is $10,900. And that is only the beginning. Then there is the mandatory [grave liner], embalming, preparatory services, etc., etc. Grand total: $27,000. I had a panic attack. I couldnt breath. I couldnt get it together. My mother asked the lady to walk outside with her. After about 15 minutes they came back in with papers and handed them out to everyone. They were price lists [editor's note: Federal Regulations state the saleswoman should have given the family the price list at the BEGINNING of this discussion!].

After a horrible 4-hour ordeal, we finally arranged the funeral for the soonest available date: 1 week later. The bare minimum funeral we could arrange came to $12,000 which my parents paid for in full because the home would not even touch the body before they had full payment in hand. That did not include a headstone. I paid for that over the next year and had it placed a year later.

 

Georgia is Peachy Keen...If You Own a Cemetery

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8/8/06 — Once again, state lawmakers are treating the body politic as their personal playground by serving up citizens as grist for the burial industry's mill. Georgia's lawmakers gave commercial cemeteries a gift at the expense of consumers this year with a bill that gutted some of the consumer protections enacted in 2000. HB 910 wrests control of most cemetery practices away from the Secretary of State's office and gives it to — guess who? — owners of for-profit cemeteries.

"It was all political," said an employee of the Secretary of State's Office. Secretary of State Cathy Cox is a Democrat. "We fought it, we went to hearings — the Secretary of State even sent letters to the Senate on the last day."

Last Updated ( Tuesday, 04 December 2007 16:29 ) Read more...
 

Cadillac Prices for a Vault

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"Here's the problem - she's just tryin' to save a little money," said Jim Goodman, manager of Cadillac Memorial Gardens East, a cemetery in Michigan.

Well, yes, she is, I replied. What's wrong with that?

"Well, I have to make sure what she's got fits my specifications. . . I'm liable," Goodman said.

Liable for what?

"I have to make sure the urn vault will fit [in the grave]," he said.

A little background:

Lucy Smyth called FCA in May, 2006, to complain. She was scheduled to bury her mother's ashes the next day in Cadillac Memorial Gardens, in a grave occupied by another family member. She tried to cut costs by ordering the polystyrene urn vault (a totally unnecessary box for the urn cemeteries insist on supposedly to prevent sinkholes) directly from a manufacturer for $50.

Smyth claimed cemetery manager Goodman wouldn't let her use that vault, that he insisted she buy a vault from the cemetery for $275.

"He said my vault couldn't withstand enough pounds per square inch," Smyth said.

This sounded fishy to me, so I called the cemetery. Goodman told a different story. He said he'd never told Smyth she couldn't use the vault she bought outside, only that he had to see the specifications.

"I have to make sure it has a tensile strength of 3,000 pounds per square inch," he said.

Why is that necessary, I asked. Given the small volume of earth displaced in the grave by about 5 pounds of cremated remains, I said, are sinkholes really such a dire problem?

"All it would take was one back hoe to go over [the urn] and it would crack and open right up and sink in," said Goodman.

I'm still having a hard time believing a gaping sinkhole could result from a cracked urn the size of a flour canister buried underground. Do the cremated remains somehow just vanish, leaving an empty hole for the dirt to cave into?

Well, what about Smyth's vault, I asked.

"As a matter of fact, I just got the specs by fax from the manufacturer," Goodman said.

And?

"It's a Triple-H vault, the same one I use. It's fine."

Then why did you tell Ms. Smyth she couldn't use her vault if it's the same one you were trying to sell her?

"I never told her that," Goodman said.

After getting his assurance there wouldn't be any further problems with the Smyth burial, I called Ms. Smyth back.

"He's such a liar," she said. "I told him right upfront that I bought a Triple-H polystyrene vault. This is the same one he was going to sell me for $275? Incredible."

There's always two sides to a story, but Mr. Goodman's just didn't ring true. Ms. Smyth had the good sense to spend as little as possible on what was, let's face it, an unnecessary purchase. Goodman's irritation at his customer "trying to save money" really sums it up. It seems he was miffed about losing a $275 sale because a customer had the temerity to shop around. This attitude is common; I've come to think of it as the Divine Right of the Death Industry. Americans love a bargain and will move heaven and earth to find a good deal on most items. For many reasons, fewer do it when it comes to death purchases. But those who try to cut costs at the grave often confront indignant funeral and cemetery salespeople, literally outraged that anyone would haggle with them.

Goodman's credibility fell further when I did a little digging of my own. Cadillac Memorial Gardens had a familiar ring, so I went through my files and found a Detroit News article from 2004 describing allegations of fraud at the cemetery:

The Detroit news reported that consumers were refused refunds on contracts they signed for burial crypts in a proposed mausoleum that was never built at the Cadillac Memorial Gardens East Cemetery in Clinton Township . . . . At the controversial Cadillac Memorial Cemetery East that was the subject of the News' investigation, auditors said more than $2 million in sales were recorded for an unbuilt mausoleum project. The auditors said the cemetery failed to establish a construction trust fund as required. They said $454,839 was spent on preliminary plans for the project.

Perhaps the cemetery was trying to replenish that missing money $275 at a time.

I suggested to Smyth that she find another cemetery. Maybe she should cancel the burial and find a more reputable business. She agreed that would have been best, but too many family members were already buried there.

"They really have you in a bind," she said.

CONSUMER TIP - It seems the Triple-H Company is willing to work directly with consumers to give them fair prices. You might want to give them your business if you find yourself needing a cremation vault. Let them know you appreciate how they do business, and that consumers appreciate having reasonably priced options. Let's hope Cadillac cemetery doesn't put pressure on Triple-H to stop selling to the public!

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